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	<title>Comments on: 20 Years Since Wayne Gretzky Was Traded to Los Angeles, There Is One Little, Nagging Thing</title>
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	<description>News &#38; Views on the Los Angeles Kings and the National Hockey League  by Gann Matsuda</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan Smyth Gets His Wish: Los Angeles Kings And Edmonton Oilers Finally Agree On A Deal &#171; Frozen Royalty</title>
		<link>http://frozenroyalty.net/2008/08/09/20-years-since-wayne-gretzky-was-traded-to-los-angeles-there-is-one-little-nagging-thing/#comment-15597</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan Smyth Gets His Wish: Los Angeles Kings And Edmonton Oilers Finally Agree On A Deal &#171; Frozen Royalty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8230;acquire a fifty-goal scorer and an offensive defenseman, or trade him (see 20 Years Since Wayne Gretzky Was Traded to Los Angeles, There Is One Little, Nagging Thing). [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8230;acquire a fifty-goal scorer and an offensive defenseman, or trade him (see 20 Years Since Wayne Gretzky Was Traded to Los Angeles, There Is One Little, Nagging Thing). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Gann GREAT reporting on The Great One, I loved to hear a different opinion. I also liked the can of worms you opened up, keep up the great work !!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Gann GREAT reporting on The Great One, I loved to hear a different opinion. I also liked the can of worms you opened up, keep up the great work !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mario Stitt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mario Stitt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always loved watching Wayne play. I was searching for information on Wayne Gretzky and ended up on this web site. I&#039;ve found this post interesting. I&#039;ll take a look through the rest of your web site. Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always loved watching Wayne play. I was searching for information on Wayne Gretzky and ended up on this web site. I&#8217;ve found this post interesting. I&#8217;ll take a look through the rest of your web site. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Gann Matsuda</title>
		<link>http://frozenroyalty.net/2008/08/09/20-years-since-wayne-gretzky-was-traded-to-los-angeles-there-is-one-little-nagging-thing/#comment-2443</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gann Matsuda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an aside, Rob Cowie is an NHL scout (for the New York Islanders, I think) and I&#039;ve seen him at Staples Center a couple of times this season. Makes it a lot more difficult to forget..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aside, Rob Cowie is an NHL scout (for the New York Islanders, I think) and I&#8217;ve seen him at Staples Center a couple of times this season. Makes it a lot more difficult to forget..</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Soldo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Soldo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yikes!!!  Heated discussion about the past.  Most of us forgot about these players, so they probably were not very good.

This discussion does illuminate problems with the &quot;culture&quot; of the LA Kings and why they have struggled over the years.  For the fans, we have had our heart broken over these years.

Is the &quot;new&quot; team an improvement?  Hard to say.  I think so.  I can say this, after busting your ass at work all day, hockey is great to watch !!!  Would be better if the Kings were more than a .500 team...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes!!!  Heated discussion about the past.  Most of us forgot about these players, so they probably were not very good.</p>
<p>This discussion does illuminate problems with the &#8220;culture&#8221; of the LA Kings and why they have struggled over the years.  For the fans, we have had our heart broken over these years.</p>
<p>Is the &#8220;new&#8221; team an improvement?  Hard to say.  I think so.  I can say this, after busting your ass at work all day, hockey is great to watch !!!  Would be better if the Kings were more than a .500 team&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gann Matsuda</title>
		<link>http://frozenroyalty.net/2008/08/09/20-years-since-wayne-gretzky-was-traded-to-los-angeles-there-is-one-little-nagging-thing/#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gann Matsuda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cloutier was definitely worse! Nice guy compared to Cechmanek (but he rarely talked to the media, so that is probably unfair).

All I meant was that the details are available, so there was no point in my rehashing them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cloutier was definitely worse! Nice guy compared to Cechmanek (but he rarely talked to the media, so that is probably unfair).</p>
<p>All I meant was that the details are available, so there was no point in my rehashing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://frozenroyalty.net/2008/08/09/20-years-since-wayne-gretzky-was-traded-to-los-angeles-there-is-one-little-nagging-thing/#comment-516</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gann,

I wish you were this upfront and honest about the current Kings&#039; players than you are with those older hacks. I&#039;d love to hear your analysis of &quot;Cechmanek vs. Cloutier, Who was worse?&quot; Haha!

I&#039;m very interested in reading more about the Blues/Kings trade and how it went down exactly and everything that was involved in Gretzky demanding a trade and being sent to STL to join Brett Hull. Do you have any links that would discuss what you did not want to get into?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gann,</p>
<p>I wish you were this upfront and honest about the current Kings&#8217; players than you are with those older hacks. I&#8217;d love to hear your analysis of &#8220;Cechmanek vs. Cloutier, Who was worse?&#8221; Haha!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very interested in reading more about the Blues/Kings trade and how it went down exactly and everything that was involved in Gretzky demanding a trade and being sent to STL to join Brett Hull. Do you have any links that would discuss what you did not want to get into?</p>
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		<title>By: Gann Matsuda</title>
		<link>http://frozenroyalty.net/2008/08/09/20-years-since-wayne-gretzky-was-traded-to-los-angeles-there-is-one-little-nagging-thing/#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gann Matsuda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t get a good look at Azevedo on the ice, sorry.

Tsyplakov was on some horrible teams...big reason is because despite his skill, he was horrible too! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get a good look at Azevedo on the ice, sorry.</p>
<p>Tsyplakov was on some horrible teams&#8230;big reason is because despite his skill, he was horrible too! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: cristobal</title>
		<link>http://frozenroyalty.net/2008/08/09/20-years-since-wayne-gretzky-was-traded-to-los-angeles-there-is-one-little-nagging-thing/#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cristobal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[left and right wingers shouldn&#039;t get sucked down towards their own goal.  hanging above the circles is their role in the defensive zone.  if everyone collapses, it starts to look like ayso soccer and goals start to flow into your own net.  hard for me to remeber all the details of his play, but your probably correct in that he had much more to give, stumpel possibly too.  Remember how bad the kings were for long stretches too.  Stumpel and Tsyplakov were not always on a very good team.

I heard Azevedo wasn&#039;t impressive in the mini-camp.  Did you see him during the camp and what did you think.  

Good articles and i like your support of your opinion.  keep it up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>left and right wingers shouldn&#8217;t get sucked down towards their own goal.  hanging above the circles is their role in the defensive zone.  if everyone collapses, it starts to look like ayso soccer and goals start to flow into your own net.  hard for me to remeber all the details of his play, but your probably correct in that he had much more to give, stumpel possibly too.  Remember how bad the kings were for long stretches too.  Stumpel and Tsyplakov were not always on a very good team.</p>
<p>I heard Azevedo wasn&#8217;t impressive in the mini-camp.  Did you see him during the camp and what did you think.  </p>
<p>Good articles and i like your support of your opinion.  keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Gann Matsuda</title>
		<link>http://frozenroyalty.net/2008/08/09/20-years-since-wayne-gretzky-was-traded-to-los-angeles-there-is-one-little-nagging-thing/#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gann Matsuda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoops...I see that you switched gears on me and started talking about Tsyplakov. Yeah, he had some skill, but he was really a lazy bum. Always coasted back defensively, never got his nose dirty in the corners. Always hung out below the tops of the circles, waiting for a pass. Never cared about his defensive responsibilities or working hard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops&#8230;I see that you switched gears on me and started talking about Tsyplakov. Yeah, he had some skill, but he was really a lazy bum. Always coasted back defensively, never got his nose dirty in the corners. Always hung out below the tops of the circles, waiting for a pass. Never cared about his defensive responsibilities or working hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Gann Matsuda</title>
		<link>http://frozenroyalty.net/2008/08/09/20-years-since-wayne-gretzky-was-traded-to-los-angeles-there-is-one-little-nagging-thing/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gann Matsuda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with Stumpel is that he had the skill, but refused to use it. He should have much, much better numbers. But because he refuses to shoot the puck 95% of the time, he has been mostly useless throughout his career despite playing as a first or second-line center most of the time...he should consistenly be a first-line center with his skill, physical ability (something else he doesn&#039;t make use of) and his face-off ability.

But even though he has played as a first or second-line center for much of his NHL career, his numbers, especially in terms of goal scoring, just aren&#039;t where they should be for a player with his skill, and that&#039;s because he is very much a one-dimensional (pass always) player who can be easily shut down by taking away his passing lanes.

If Johnson was a joke, Tsygurov was the worst joke in history! :-)

And don&#039;t worry...I do not require meds. I&#039;m fine :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Stumpel is that he had the skill, but refused to use it. He should have much, much better numbers. But because he refuses to shoot the puck 95% of the time, he has been mostly useless throughout his career despite playing as a first or second-line center most of the time&#8230;he should consistenly be a first-line center with his skill, physical ability (something else he doesn&#8217;t make use of) and his face-off ability.</p>
<p>But even though he has played as a first or second-line center for much of his NHL career, his numbers, especially in terms of goal scoring, just aren&#8217;t where they should be for a player with his skill, and that&#8217;s because he is very much a one-dimensional (pass always) player who can be easily shut down by taking away his passing lanes.</p>
<p>If Johnson was a joke, Tsygurov was the worst joke in history! :-)</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t worry&#8230;I do not require meds. I&#8217;m fine :-)</p>
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		<title>By: cristobal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cristobal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[man, gann, you&#039;re prickly today.  Johnson was a joke of a hockey player but he could end a career with a right to the head (see beukeboom) with the best of &#039;em.  Unfortunately, north american hockey continues to embrace thuggery over talent.  I also, i guess, just disagree flatly when it comes to stumpel.  677 point in his career and 57 2 years ago at 35 yrs old on a team as bad as florida.  its not hall of fame stuff, but pretty good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man, gann, you&#8217;re prickly today.  Johnson was a joke of a hockey player but he could end a career with a right to the head (see beukeboom) with the best of &#8216;em.  Unfortunately, north american hockey continues to embrace thuggery over talent.  I also, i guess, just disagree flatly when it comes to stumpel.  677 point in his career and 57 2 years ago at 35 yrs old on a team as bad as florida.  its not hall of fame stuff, but pretty good.</p>
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		<title>By: Gann Matsuda</title>
		<link>http://frozenroyalty.net/2008/08/09/20-years-since-wayne-gretzky-was-traded-to-los-angeles-there-is-one-little-nagging-thing/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gann Matsuda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Miles ahead of McKenna and Johnson?&quot; How do you figure? Both guys went on to play for other NHL teams and for more than just a handful of games, while Tsygurov went off to the nearest landfill to hang out with his peers! :-)

Stumpel had that one soild year and then stunk things up the rest of the way. He is just far too predictable, making it easy to shut him down completely. He simply refuses to shoot the puck. And I dispute your assertion that he has had a &quot;great career numbers wise.&quot; Looking at his career NHL stats, he&#039;s had little more than a mediocre career...maybe worse than that.

Shevalier? Chapdelaine? Those are just two of many former Kings who were, in a word, horrid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Miles ahead of McKenna and Johnson?&#8221; How do you figure? Both guys went on to play for other NHL teams and for more than just a handful of games, while Tsygurov went off to the nearest landfill to hang out with his peers! :-)</p>
<p>Stumpel had that one soild year and then stunk things up the rest of the way. He is just far too predictable, making it easy to shut him down completely. He simply refuses to shoot the puck. And I dispute your assertion that he has had a &#8220;great career numbers wise.&#8221; Looking at his career NHL stats, he&#8217;s had little more than a mediocre career&#8230;maybe worse than that.</p>
<p>Shevalier? Chapdelaine? Those are just two of many former Kings who were, in a word, horrid.</p>
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		<title>By: cristobal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cristobal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gann, i didn&#039;t say tsygurov was above average, that&#039;s what i was trying to say last post.  he was miles ahead of Mckenna and Johnson though, if only in hockey playing ability.

Its funny, but 10 years ago, stumpel was the no. 10 overall scorer in the league.  I think his best quality was his puck control, like you said.  He&#039;d stick out the rump and create lots of space.  He moved around a lot, but had a great career numbers wise.  I always liked stumpel.  

By the way, its so funny when a player like potomski is mentioned.  We forget all the no-names that peppered the league.  How about Jeff Shevalier or Rene Chapdelaine?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gann, i didn&#8217;t say tsygurov was above average, that&#8217;s what i was trying to say last post.  he was miles ahead of Mckenna and Johnson though, if only in hockey playing ability.</p>
<p>Its funny, but 10 years ago, stumpel was the no. 10 overall scorer in the league.  I think his best quality was his puck control, like you said.  He&#8217;d stick out the rump and create lots of space.  He moved around a lot, but had a great career numbers wise.  I always liked stumpel.  </p>
<p>By the way, its so funny when a player like potomski is mentioned.  We forget all the no-names that peppered the league.  How about Jeff Shevalier or Rene Chapdelaine?</p>
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		<title>By: Gann Matsuda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gann Matsuda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stumpel was a skilled player, but he was so focused on passing first, second, third, fourth and fifth and THEN MAYBE he&#039;d shoot, that defenses just played the pass on him and easily neutralized him because he so rarely shot the puck.

Tsygurov was not above average skill-wise, or in any other aspect of the game. Sorry, but he was garbage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stumpel was a skilled player, but he was so focused on passing first, second, third, fourth and fifth and THEN MAYBE he&#8217;d shoot, that defenses just played the pass on him and easily neutralized him because he so rarely shot the puck.</p>
<p>Tsygurov was not above average skill-wise, or in any other aspect of the game. Sorry, but he was garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: cristobal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cristobal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you misunderstood me.  In terms of skill, tsyplakov was above average.  he was a bit like stumpel that never found a way to fit in completely. 

Johnson and Mckenna should never have played in the NHL.  They were simply awful.  They grew up playing hockey and were never going to learn to skate.  they define goon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you misunderstood me.  In terms of skill, tsyplakov was above average.  he was a bit like stumpel that never found a way to fit in completely. </p>
<p>Johnson and Mckenna should never have played in the NHL.  They were simply awful.  They grew up playing hockey and were never going to learn to skate.  they define goon.</p>
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		<title>By: Gann Matsuda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gann Matsuda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Big difference is that Johnson and McKenna were willing to work to improve, even thought they weren&#039;t going to improve much.

Sorry, but if you thought Tsygurov was an &quot;above average player,&quot; you were watching a different player!! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big difference is that Johnson and McKenna were willing to work to improve, even thought they weren&#8217;t going to improve much.</p>
<p>Sorry, but if you thought Tsygurov was an &#8220;above average player,&#8221; you were watching a different player!! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: cristobal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cristobal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gann - what about the current load of hacks in the nhl and the kings?  they still exist.  whatever the case with tsygurov, at least he could skate and stickhandle, which is more than can be said of Matt Johnson, Steve Mckenna, and some others.  

Oh, not to attack you, but I really disagree with the Tsyplakov derision.  I liked him and thought he was a decent, above average player.  Again, maybe he never really fulfilled his potential, but I think you were harsh on him.  Maybe you talked to him or had inside info, however.  

cheers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gann &#8211; what about the current load of hacks in the nhl and the kings?  they still exist.  whatever the case with tsygurov, at least he could skate and stickhandle, which is more than can be said of Matt Johnson, Steve Mckenna, and some others.  </p>
<p>Oh, not to attack you, but I really disagree with the Tsyplakov derision.  I liked him and thought he was a decent, above average player.  Again, maybe he never really fulfilled his potential, but I think you were harsh on him.  Maybe you talked to him or had inside info, however.  </p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Gann Matsuda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gann Matsuda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point was that Blomsten was one of way too many hacks on that team.

As for Tsygurov, no...seriously, the guy was one of those horrible hacks. After the first handful of picks each year, the draft is a serious crapshoot. Tsygurov&#039;s problem was between his ears. He thought he could get by without having to work hard. Having to fight had nothing to do with it. The guy was a head case and had serious attitude problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point was that Blomsten was one of way too many hacks on that team.</p>
<p>As for Tsygurov, no&#8230;seriously, the guy was one of those horrible hacks. After the first handful of picks each year, the draft is a serious crapshoot. Tsygurov&#8217;s problem was between his ears. He thought he could get by without having to work hard. Having to fight had nothing to do with it. The guy was a head case and had serious attitude problems.</p>
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		<title>By: cristobal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cristobal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gann - i&#039;d like to see the NHL go through a complete overhaul and money transfers become a regular transaction.

What I meant about Blomsten is that can you really say Gretzky was surrounded by mediocrity because a player was there for 6 games?  Tsygurov was a russian, perhaps the transition at that time was too much for him.  He must&#039;ve had some talent to go in the 2nd round regardless of what he did here in the NHL.  Remember, he came into a league with Crowder, Probert, and Kocur from a continent where fighting is banned.  It was pretty freakin scary out there for him i bet.

Great Job with the Blog and great that you post and debate.

cheers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gann &#8211; i&#8217;d like to see the NHL go through a complete overhaul and money transfers become a regular transaction.</p>
<p>What I meant about Blomsten is that can you really say Gretzky was surrounded by mediocrity because a player was there for 6 games?  Tsygurov was a russian, perhaps the transition at that time was too much for him.  He must&#8217;ve had some talent to go in the 2nd round regardless of what he did here in the NHL.  Remember, he came into a league with Crowder, Probert, and Kocur from a continent where fighting is banned.  It was pretty freakin scary out there for him i bet.</p>
<p>Great Job with the Blog and great that you post and debate.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: cristobal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cristobal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lisa - gretzky never pandered to the awards committee&#039;s to win the lady byng.  He&#039;s great at sports because he&#039;s competitive.  Sometimes people get pissed when they are losing and an ejection can happen.  As far as whether it is better to market oneself and the game is debateable, but he&#039;s got the right.  Oddly, hockey would possibly be better off if not FOR gretzky.  Sports is not about 1 player and mark messier and the oilers proved that they could win without him.  The Kings bankruptcy, rising player fees, the rush to expand the league; would that have happened if Gretzky had never been?  I think Hockey would have survived if he&#039;d never come along, Orr and the NHL of the 70&#039;s were loved by many, but it may die because of all the mistakes they&#039;ve made since he came to Los Angeles and the marketing began in earnest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa &#8211; gretzky never pandered to the awards committee&#8217;s to win the lady byng.  He&#8217;s great at sports because he&#8217;s competitive.  Sometimes people get pissed when they are losing and an ejection can happen.  As far as whether it is better to market oneself and the game is debateable, but he&#8217;s got the right.  Oddly, hockey would possibly be better off if not FOR gretzky.  Sports is not about 1 player and mark messier and the oilers proved that they could win without him.  The Kings bankruptcy, rising player fees, the rush to expand the league; would that have happened if Gretzky had never been?  I think Hockey would have survived if he&#8217;d never come along, Orr and the NHL of the 70&#8242;s were loved by many, but it may die because of all the mistakes they&#8217;ve made since he came to Los Angeles and the marketing began in earnest.</p>
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		<title>By: Gann Matsuda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gann Matsuda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, Buffalo did draft Tsygurov for nothing. The guy was a total head case. Refused to work hard. I have never said this about any player, but the guy was a complete loser.

Blomsten played in so few games, in large part, because he was horrible.

As for what McNall did, yeah, but he really took advantage of Pocklington, who had no choice because of his serious financial problems. Keep in mind that he also got $15 million from the Kings in the deal, something we don&#039;t see anymore (cash in trades) because the league prohibits it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Buffalo did draft Tsygurov for nothing. The guy was a total head case. Refused to work hard. I have never said this about any player, but the guy was a complete loser.</p>
<p>Blomsten played in so few games, in large part, because he was horrible.</p>
<p>As for what McNall did, yeah, but he really took advantage of Pocklington, who had no choice because of his serious financial problems. Keep in mind that he also got $15 million from the Kings in the deal, something we don&#8217;t see anymore (cash in trades) because the league prohibits it.</p>
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		<title>By: cristobal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cristobal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i&#039;m just getting started reading the comments, but I have to agree with Smoke a bit so far.  Tsygurov was no presence on the team, but buffalo didn&#039;t draft him in the 2nd round for nothing.  Also, i looked and Blomsten only played 6 games for the Kings as far as i can tell, hardly time for Gretzky to even notice he wasn&#039;t going to fit in.  The mistakes of the trade, i believe, center around one point.  AEG knew nothing about hockey (and still doesn&#039;t) and the new ownership had a crap management team.  No offense, but they really got robbed.  Its more interesting, really, to consider that McNall and Vachon were able to strip Edmonton of not only Gretzky, but McSorley and Krushyneski.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m just getting started reading the comments, but I have to agree with Smoke a bit so far.  Tsygurov was no presence on the team, but buffalo didn&#8217;t draft him in the 2nd round for nothing.  Also, i looked and Blomsten only played 6 games for the Kings as far as i can tell, hardly time for Gretzky to even notice he wasn&#8217;t going to fit in.  The mistakes of the trade, i believe, center around one point.  AEG knew nothing about hockey (and still doesn&#8217;t) and the new ownership had a crap management team.  No offense, but they really got robbed.  Its more interesting, really, to consider that McNall and Vachon were able to strip Edmonton of not only Gretzky, but McSorley and Krushyneski.</p>
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		<title>By: eyeflingpooh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eyeflingpooh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lisa, I don&#039;t mean to be rude, but...did you forget your meds today?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, I don&#8217;t mean to be rude, but&#8230;did you forget your meds today?</p>
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		<title>By: Gann Matsuda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gann Matsuda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I thought Gretzky was a god,  I wouldn&#039;t have written anything that even remotely criticized him. Care to try again? :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I thought Gretzky was a god,  I wouldn&#8217;t have written anything that even remotely criticized him. Care to try again? :-)</p>
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